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	<description>“In cultures where gender is rigidly bi-polar, rituals of gender crossing remind us of our continuous common humanity.”  Anne Bolin, anthropologist</description>
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		<title>Comment on [UPDATED] Comments on Sweden&#8217;s recent acquittal of a cisgender man for the rape of a trans woman by leftytgirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My take:

http://leftytgirl.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/horrifying-precedent-swedish-court-acquits-intended-rapist-based-on-womans-trans-status/

I emphasize that in my analysis I do not focus on the judge, but rather how society&#039;s underlying cissexism plays out in the case.  If the judge merely applied the law, then very clearly the law desperately needs to be changed.  I&#039;ll write more when I get a chance later tonight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take:</p>
<p><a href="http://leftytgirl.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/horrifying-precedent-swedish-court-acquits-intended-rapist-based-on-womans-trans-status/" rel="nofollow">http://leftytgirl.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/horrifying-precedent-swedish-court-acquits-intended-rapist-based-on-womans-trans-status/</a></p>
<p>I emphasize that in my analysis I do not focus on the judge, but rather how society&#8217;s underlying cissexism plays out in the case.  If the judge merely applied the law, then very clearly the law desperately needs to be changed.  I&#8217;ll write more when I get a chance later tonight.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the “Transsexual” vs. “Transgender” Debate is Irrelevant to the Fight for Equal Rights by True Transsexuals on a Boat: My Take On the TS-not-TG Disease, I Mean, &#8220;Activists&#8221; &#124; Moving On Up a Little Higher</title>
		<link>http://arizonaabby.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/why-the-%e2%80%9ctranssexual%e2%80%9d-vs-%e2%80%9ctransgender%e2%80%9d-debate-is-irrelevant-to-the-fight-for-equal-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[True Transsexuals on a Boat: My Take On the TS-not-TG Disease, I Mean, &#8220;Activists&#8221; &#124; Moving On Up a Little Higher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] me make it clear that in no way does having a unified community hinder the progress towards civil rights. In fact, by unifying, we can pool our resources, both monetary and human, to achieve greater [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me make it clear that in no way does having a unified community hinder the progress towards civil rights. In fact, by unifying, we can pool our resources, both monetary and human, to achieve greater [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the “Transsexual” vs. “Transgender” Debate is Irrelevant to the Fight for Equal Rights by maddox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;After all, non-binary gender people don’t have a problem with who they are. The problem lies with those who wish to impose their conception of what and who is acceptable that is the problem.&quot;

Brilliant. Of course, I am realistic in that we can&#039;t change other people&#039;s perceptions of us (at least not instantaneously). So yes, while other people are the ones with the problem, we nevertheless have a problem in our hands, right now: discrimination. 

In short, non-binary identities open up a whole new can of worms socially, linguistically, and legally, and we&#039;ve barely begun to scratch the surface with traditional TS issues, so we have a long way to go. 

I appreciate this entire essay. I had been searching for the right words to express the uselessness of those debates, and you laid it all out very clearly and reasonably.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After all, non-binary gender people don’t have a problem with who they are. The problem lies with those who wish to impose their conception of what and who is acceptable that is the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Brilliant. Of course, I am realistic in that we can&#8217;t change other people&#8217;s perceptions of us (at least not instantaneously). So yes, while other people are the ones with the problem, we nevertheless have a problem in our hands, right now: discrimination. </p>
<p>In short, non-binary identities open up a whole new can of worms socially, linguistically, and legally, and we&#8217;ve barely begun to scratch the surface with traditional TS issues, so we have a long way to go. </p>
<p>I appreciate this entire essay. I had been searching for the right words to express the uselessness of those debates, and you laid it all out very clearly and reasonably.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prescott Webcam by Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, the webcam that I linked to in this post is no longer in operation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the webcam that I linked to in this post is no longer in operation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prescott Webcam by Abby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are lots of people here that relocated from California. You can visit this website to learn more about the area: http://www.visit-prescott.com/.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of people here that relocated from California. You can visit this website to learn more about the area: <a href="http://www.visit-prescott.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.visit-prescott.com/</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Prescott Webcam by gary murray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gary murray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking about moving to prescott with my family. Never been there but everyone i talk to ,loves it! Want to get away from california. Too many nuts and taxes. Looking for a little slower pace life. Any Comments ? THanks Tired Of California]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about moving to prescott with my family. Never been there but everyone i talk to ,loves it! Want to get away from california. Too many nuts and taxes. Looking for a little slower pace life. Any Comments ? THanks Tired Of California</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the “Transsexual” vs. “Transgender” Debate is Irrelevant to the Fight for Equal Rights by Carolyn Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolyn Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a treat to read! 

(Despite the &quot;zie&#039;s&quot; and &quot;hir&#039;s&quot;... Sorry, I&#039;m not a fan of such pronouns.) :-)

Carolyn Ann]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a treat to read! </p>
<p>(Despite the &#8220;zie&#8217;s&#8221; and &#8220;hir&#8217;s&#8221;&#8230; Sorry, I&#8217;m not a fan of such pronouns.) :-)</p>
<p>Carolyn Ann</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the “Transsexual” vs. “Transgender” Debate is Irrelevant to the Fight for Equal Rights by Flushing the Potty Panic &#124; Gemma Catherine Seymour</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flushing the Potty Panic &#124; Gemma Catherine Seymour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 03:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jensen, in her article about the arguments over terminology in our community and its relevance to the structure of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Does the New York Marriage Equality Bill Include Intersex People? by Zollies_Spot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zollies_Spot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent blog post. As an intersex individual, I just wanted to thank you for advocating for intersex rights. Blessings!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog post. As an intersex individual, I just wanted to thank you for advocating for intersex rights. Blessings!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why the “Transsexual” vs. “Transgender” Debate is Irrelevant to the Fight for Equal Rights by Gemma Seymour</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gemma Seymour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the understanding that legal theories covering the propriety of gendered standards of workplace dress generally are considered constitutional so long as employers allow trans people to adopt the gendered dress code of their target gender, and are well-covered in jurisprudence, particularly as a result of the battles of airline staff in the 1970&#039;s.

In addition, there are many activities in which prevailing standards of physical attractiveness are permitted to be used as discriminatory standards, again, where it is considered that there is a justifiable business purpose.

Laws such as ENDA may force employers to adopt a wider range of genders as it concerns standards of dress, but the concept of gendered dress itself is usually not in question.

That said, like Abigail, I see no fundamental difficulty in allowing employees to alternate their presentation so long as they comply with the applicable standards, but with one caveat.

In practice, employers are generally granted wide latitude in determining what kinds of behavior may be damaging to their economic activity, and an argument can be made that in many circumstances where a person who might choose to alternate presentation may be in direct personal contact with a customer or client, or a potential customer or client, that the lack of a consistent presentation may have a negative economic effect on the enterprise.

It is important to note, however, that even in the face of this reality, there are many, many jobs which would not necessarily require direct contact, and that in any case, any such negative effect that may result would be a direct complication of social mores that themselves may be in question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the understanding that legal theories covering the propriety of gendered standards of workplace dress generally are considered constitutional so long as employers allow trans people to adopt the gendered dress code of their target gender, and are well-covered in jurisprudence, particularly as a result of the battles of airline staff in the 1970&#8242;s.</p>
<p>In addition, there are many activities in which prevailing standards of physical attractiveness are permitted to be used as discriminatory standards, again, where it is considered that there is a justifiable business purpose.</p>
<p>Laws such as ENDA may force employers to adopt a wider range of genders as it concerns standards of dress, but the concept of gendered dress itself is usually not in question.</p>
<p>That said, like Abigail, I see no fundamental difficulty in allowing employees to alternate their presentation so long as they comply with the applicable standards, but with one caveat.</p>
<p>In practice, employers are generally granted wide latitude in determining what kinds of behavior may be damaging to their economic activity, and an argument can be made that in many circumstances where a person who might choose to alternate presentation may be in direct personal contact with a customer or client, or a potential customer or client, that the lack of a consistent presentation may have a negative economic effect on the enterprise.</p>
<p>It is important to note, however, that even in the face of this reality, there are many, many jobs which would not necessarily require direct contact, and that in any case, any such negative effect that may result would be a direct complication of social mores that themselves may be in question.</p>
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